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Guide To Catching SHinies

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Post by Prof. Geno Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:46 am

Ok, I have seen a lot of question's recently saying how do you catch
shinies etc, so I thought I would give a guide, that should help people
out.


Shiny Pokemon

Shiny pokemon are just pokemon of a different colour. There are no stat
differences, and there is no higher chance of having better IV's
(except in Gold/Silver/Crystal, where shiny pokemon have a higher
chance of better IV's). Shininess is determined by a pokemons
Personality value and the trainers ID. You can find a shiny pokemon
anywhere and everywhere. The chance of finding one is 1 in 8192. This
means that even if you have seen the pokemon 8191 times, the next time
is not a guaranteed shiny. The chance is still 1 in 8192. This also
applies to breeding. If you breed a shiny pokemon, the offspring will
not nescacerily be shiny. The chance is still 1 in 8192.

Shiny legendaries (that are legit) are considered some of the most
valuable things out there. An easy (relatively) way to catch a legit
shiny legend is to save before the fight, and keep restarting the game
if it is not a shiny. Legendaries that move (i.e. mesprit and
cresselia) are considerably harder to catch as shinies. I wouldn't
reccomend going after it because it will most likely take years to
catch. If you do manage to get a legit one, kudos to you.

To see how shininess is determined, read the next paragraph, otherwise, ignore it. It is pretty complicated.

The Trainer ID value and the pokemon personality value are XOR'ed
together (Xor is just a function, like multiplying or dividing but
different. If you want to understand this, the easiest way is to look
at logic gates in electronic systems). The first byte and the second
byte are then also XOR'ed together. If the final value is less than 8,
then the pokemon is shiny. The chance of this happening is 8 in 65536,
which cancels down to 1 in 8192. Do not worry if you do not understand
this, it's not really important anyway, just a few game mechanics.


Pokeradar

The pokeradar is a key item that you recieve from Professer Rowan in
Sandgem town, after you have completed the sinnoh dex (150 pokemon).
You do not have to have beaten the elite four, but I would reccomend
you do so because it is an easy way to see pokemon such as Spiritomb or
Garchomp.

To use the pokeradar, you must be standing in a normal grassy patch.
You must not be on your bike. The pokeradar does not work in caves or
when you are surfing. Also you can not be standing in long grass.

First, lets get things straight. The pokeradar does not statistically increase your chance of seeing shinies. Essentially the chance is still 1 in 8192.

Basically, whenever you physically use the pokeradar (i.e. press Y),
the chance of getting a shiny is 4 in 8192 (assuming 4 patches of grass
rustle)

However, when you chain, by finishing battles, the probability of
finding a shiny goes up. The radar does not increase the chances,
chaining does.

Here is the formula for finding a shiny during chaining

Basically, N is the length of the chain so far, and P is the probability of finding a shiny.

This formula shows us that the optimum chain length is 40. (If the
chain is 41, the bottom line will be 0, and you can�t divide by 0) so
the game compensates by keeping the probability as if the chain length
were 40. If n increases past 40 the probability of finding a shiny goes
up a lot less than before.

14747 - 40(n)
------------------------- = P(shiny)
2621440 x (41 - n)

The pokeradar is used for catching shinies, due to a technique called
chaining, which we will see more of later. Basically, the radar is used
for chaining because it allows you to see lots of the same pokemon in a
row, making it easier to find a shiny.

When you use the pokeradar (I reccomend setting it to the y button),
you will see patches of grass around you shake. This shaking means that
there is definitaly a pokemon there. There are three types of grass
shakes:

1. The normal shake. The grass retains it's colour, and just vibrates. Pretty easy to spot.

2. The flashing shake. This time the grass vibrate, but white flashes
can also be seen. This indicates a chance of seeing a rarer pokemon. I
generally start my chains on white flashing patches.

3. The shiny shake (great name, eh). This time, the grass shakes, but
sparkles can be seen. This indicates that a shiny pokemon is definitaly
hiding there. If you see one, go there. NOW. (but make sure you dont
walk through any other rustling patches on the way there. They look a
pure white in colour, and flash white twice.

Okay, now thats done, lets get onto the most important part. Chaining.

Chaining

Okay, first things first. What is chaining? Chaining is the art of
using the pokeradar to see the same pokemon over and over again, and
hopefully, eventually see a shiny one.

A small example:

:: You use the pokeradar to make some patshes of grass shakes. You see
one shake and go to it. You find a shinx. Once you KO that shinx and
the battle screen is exited, more patches of grass will shake. You go
to the next patch of grass that has shaken. it is another shinx. You KO
this shinx and as you exit the battle screen more patches of grass
shake. ::

So on and so forth. In this example, shinx is being chained, and
because you see more of a certain pokemon, there is more chance you
will see a shiny one.

However, if you are chaining a pokemon and you run away, the chain is
broken. Also, if you are chaining a pokemon and a different pokemon
appears (say you are chaining shinx and a bidoof appears) the chain is
broken. The chaining poketech application, which is available from
Professor Oak at the pal park (when all 150 pokemon have been seen).

However, there are a few things that every trainer should know before they start chaining;

1. Repels. Get loads and loads of repels. I personally use supers as
they are cheaper. You do this because even when you use the radar, wild
pokemon still do appearm, and chances are, that'll break your chain.

2. Make sure you only go to patches of grass that are the same type as the first patch of grass you went to.

3. If no grasses of the same kind shake, just walk 50 paces and use the radar again. This will not break your chain in any way.

4. Never move straight up after a battle. Chances are, that piece of
grass shook and you didn't see it as your charater is in the way.

5. Always go to patches of grass that are furthest away from the place
you are when a battle ends. Their is more chance of a shiny being there

6. Have a decent pokemon at the front. You probably want a strong
pokemon with plenty of pp (for non shinies) that also has a status move
(preferbly sleep) or false swipe, so you can catch the shiny easily. If
searching for a pokemon with a certain nature, have a pokemon with
synchronise at the front as there will be a 50% chance of wild pokemon
having the same nature as the pokemon with synchronise. If searching
for an electric pokemon, have a pokemon with static ability at the
front (increases chance of seeing electric pokemon by 150%). If
searching for a steel pokemon, have a pokemon with magnet pull at th
front (same effect as static but for steels). If the pokemon with
synchronise etc is unsuitable to fight with, make it faint but keep it
at the front of your party. The ability will still affect wild
encounters, but the second pokemon will be sent out.

7. Have plenty of pokeballs!! This may sound obvious but do you know
how annoying it can be when you encounter a shiny and have no pokeballs
left...

8. If you have no repels left, use a pokemon with intimidate as your
first as it reduses the chance of wild encounters, but not encounters
induced by the pokeradar.

It is widely acknowledged that a chain of 40 will give the best chance
of giving a shiny pokemon. After 40, the increased chance of finding a
shiny is minimal.

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Post by lieutenantdan! Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:10 am

Thanks for the info Smile it helped alot
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Post by DarkraiPin Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:21 pm

tooo long
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Post by ant0_0 Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:05 pm

poke radar chaining is easy u just have to practise

when i first started i got a shiny on a chain 4 geodude my first one

the only tip i can give is practise
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Post by ant0_0 Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:45 am

also geno you go to the patch furthest away so you can have a better chance of seeing the same pokemon to contiue the chain..if u see a patch shiny slowly twice thats a shiy poke
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Post by Stella_pokemonfan Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:27 pm

Thanks A LOT! I was really looking for one proper chaining guide!
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Post by Tom.B Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:48 pm

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
1 0 9 9 9 9 9 0 1
1 0 9 8 8 8 9 0 1
1 0 9 8 X 8 9 0 1
1 0 9 8 8 8 9 0 1
1 0 9 9 9 9 9 0 1
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

Right... you are X.. ( standing in the middle of grass...and all the other numbers are grass..
so when trying to chain.. its important to go in a huge section of grass..
when you use the pokeradar a patch will shack in 8, 9, 0 and 1
8 is one step away from you
9 is two steps away from you
0 is three steps away from you
1 ia four steps away from you
every time you use it always go for the graas patchs in 1 ( 4 steps away from you ) you should only go for a patch when 4 different patchs shake... if they dont then reset it.. because this is how a chain breaks... when you go for a patch of grass that isnt 4 steps away... and only 2 or 3 paches shake.. so always reset it if no less than 4 patches shake..
and if i doubt reset it....
but make sure that you dont go out of the 4 step range.. beacuse it will reset your radar fot you and the towns music will start...
this is why u need to bring plenty of potions
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Post by Tom.B Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:50 pm

and.. if you wanted a shiny with a certain nature.. will syncronise help..?
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Post by ant0_0 Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:45 pm

yes i use a espeon the nature of my espeoon is timid so theres a 50% chance of the pokemon i go into to be timid
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